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  Lack of open-mindedness

  by ilikecheese in

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  a lot of religious folks can have an open-minded discussion about their beliefs without getting defensive.

  some can actually consider things from another point of view and point out the validity in the other person's point.

  obviously, a lot of jws may just be scared to think/speak in a semi-detrimental way about their religion.

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  cha ching

  I agree, scratchme1010, I was of a different mindset as a JW.

  When the elders told this little group of 'elderly' sisters, "you can't get together for a Bible study together", I said "What!!?? They can't do that! We study with people, we talk to people, why can't we talk to ourselves?!! There is NOTHING in the Bible that says "no".... We have family bible studies, you sisters have 'no family', we are 'like a family', you can study by yourselves, don't let the elders tell you what to do!"

  I was the wife of an elder at some point... I am not sure if my husband had quit at this point, but I was always bucking the system.... I guess I finally bucked hard enough and made it out. ;-)
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  Ireland

  by Lostandfound in

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  on another of ,wifibandits posts of letters, one from ibsa london and one from watchtwer ireland with.

  wicklow address which we viewed on google earth looks to be a sizeable and modern facility for ireland, question is, am i right that the irish branch closed or is it still operating ?.

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  cha ching

  When was it built?
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  Can the GB be directed by Holy Spirit and at the same time be not inspired ?

  by Chook in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yes god directs our writings but they're not inspired, so gods directions are staggered and overlapping , so the genuine innocent believing jw has a wonderful life of overlapping bullshit.

  so next time you meet a jw priest ask them what is the difference between being directed and inspired, then i promise you will hear first hand an example of overlapping bull..

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  cha ching

  As in like totally!
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  She's here and early! 27 weeks 1day.

  by Darkknight757 in

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  2. experiences

  so as of july 2nd my wife delivered by c-section our little one pound, three ounce daughter izabella.

  it was a very scary night that started with a decel and turned into multiple decels that greatly concerned the doctors.

  by early morning they felt the need to take her for her safety.

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  cha ching

  Congratulations and hang in there!

  My friend (the young grandmother in her 40's) had a granddaughter born to her very early (can't remember how early) but she spent months in the ICU, she turned out to be a very feisty, cute little girl that she loved.

  I hope the best for you, kudos to the loving, skilled nurses and doctors!

  cha ching
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  WT - Study Ed, October 2017 - The Truth Brings, “Not Peace, But a Sword”

  by Sanchy in

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  another article analyzing how bad poor jw's have it when it comes to opposition from family.

  few interesting quotes:.

  parr 2:.

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  cha ching

  This is pure madness, what a "tightening of the screws"... pretty soon, the wood will crack.
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  Reunited With My Brother

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my little brother on the left exited the cult after 29 years.. me in the middle.. my older brother on the right stopped his bible study after discovering ttatton youtube videos.. never lose hope guys!.

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  Cool pic!!!° who could be happier, leaving a CULT!!!!????

  Long live the family!

  DOC, I LOVE that pic of the hamster selling his wheel!!! Too funny!
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  DA myself to relieve great pressure?

  by Isambard Crater in

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  2. friends

  my lifelong mental illnesses, fuelled significantly by the borg, are very bad at the moment and result in me missing lots of midweek meetings, but i haven't missed a sunday in years except the occasional vacation.. the nature of my mental and emotional illnesses mean that i, as a physically in and mentally out pimo, take to heart very painfully admonishment from the platform to never miss meetings, preach all i can, and so on.. okay, i report 3 hours each month on average and no elder has ever said anything, but when they make comments on the platform, i feel such great guilt and shame, but also anger, as they do not understand my illnesses and when i do mention my situation to elders, they kind of minimise and joke about it.. some other sisters in my congregation started "officially" not attending midweek meetings a few year's ago because of their own health circumstances, but i know for a fact that some elders look down on them for this reason, not showing real understanding deep down even if they do on the surface.. i have reached the point where i want to hand in a da letter as a cry for help, or more like a clear indicator to them that when i say i'm not well enough to attend midweek, i really mean it and it's not just an excuse.

  sure, i'm only 42, but i can still be too fragile to go out at night with a 30 minute drive both ways..

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  Dear IC, as you will agree, all JWs are raised to feel "responsibility" and "be sure to meet your obligations" "carry out your ministry" "baptism is a pledge to Jehovah" ... it is repeated over and over at meetings and conventions, throughout their literature in all kinds of subtle and not so subtle ways, right?

  That is how propaganda works..... That is how brainwashing works... and they know it... that is why they do it.... That is how they get 8 million peope to say "we understand the overlapping generation crap" when they have noooooo idea.....

  The hamster wheel.... all JWs are on it. When you are on the hamster wheel, what can you do? Run? Only see one foot ahead of you? Perfect machine to "keep you busy" in the work of the "Lord"/ WT moneymaking business.

  Once you stop attending, the brainwashing stops, the guilt disappears. Your brain can make new pathways, and realize "it is just a game."

  When I realized "the game" and the lies WT told, I was still going to a few meetings until my family 'got out.' I simply turned in "time" on the "time slip" and felt oh so gooood to give WT what they had given me my whole life..... nothing. It felt great! Write "3 hours, 4 magazines, 1 RV" and do nothing, if you still want to play the game, they have done nothing for you.

  Really, give yourself a break, relax, feel no guilt.. there is NO reason to feel it, you owe 'THEM" nothing... it is just a game.

  breathe, relax, enjoy!

  cha ching!
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  Jehovahs Witness/sport/music/celebrity/status and ,contrast that with those denied that experience as JW`s.Young ones today.

  by smiddy in

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  we all know about the" world famous" jehovahs witnesses who have had successfull careers in the sport and entertainment, and literature world ,and if your new to this board google it.

  what about the young jw`s who see this and are told this is not for a jw ,its making a name for yourself where you should be highlighting jehovahs name and his organization.. but do the young ones see the organization taking the successfull jw`s in their field to task for making a name for themselves ?

  iwant to be a world skater ?i want to be a 1st class footballer?

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  cha ching

  I knew a young JW guy (still in high school) who's dad was a faded JW, mom was a reactivated JW, and he decided to give up a career in golfing (he was in the fast track, and thought he really could have made it to the pro) so that he could "do more for Jehovah."

  A few years later, he was married.... a few after that, he had a son, a few after that... he woke up.

  His dreams were stolen by lies.
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  If you were a J.W. before July 2013..................

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ....................then you couldn't have been "in the truth" nor was "the truth in you" until july 2013, because that month's watchtower was dedicated to reversing the following 8 "truths" and replacing them with opposing "truths".

  you'd been believing and teaching falsehoods.. these are for any new members and those j.w.

  's who visit here who have not seen this list before.

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  Dubstepped: "You will know the truth and the truth will change"! Haha, love it, shall have to use it, sums it all up quite nicely.

  Scratchme1010: " alternative realities"....

  another good one, I don't see how the GB get away with all this crap!

  Phizzy: I view it as a new religion, and they must treat me like someone who has never heard of the JW's, and PROVE to me that what they now teach is " the truth". I pointed out to one of them that I could not be called an Apostate either, as I had never held the beliefs they now subscribe to.
  The last guy, a couple of weeks ago, I said to him, having just told him the above, " None of the Elders I have said this to have tried to prove the latest "truth" to me, and neither will you !"
  He just walked off saying he will see me "around".

  And why won't they try to "prove it"? They can't, they don't even know themselves, but somehow, walking off, saying, "see ya" makes them feel very proud.
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  Watchtower Study June 18 from April 2017 issue

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-april-2017/judge-of-all-earth-always-does-what-is-right/.

  the judge of all the earth always does what is right.

  intended as a confidence builder in the organization ..see what you think.. theme is from deuteronomy but it is really highlighting that passage in genesis where abraham had a dialogue with god, (gen.18) would god destroy sodom if 50 righteous men would perish?

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  cha ching

  Blues Brother: Abraham had a dialogue with God, (Gen.18) Would God destroy Sodom if 50 righteous men would perish? Or less? down to 10 men it went.

  When I read this scripture (in the past, whilst "still in") I would ask, "If Abraham can question God, if the disciples can question Jesus, why can't I question the GB?

  Why are people DF'd for "speaking abusively of the glorious ones"?